I have been searching for a month for info on the input shaft bearing in the manual transmission patriots. While servicing the front output shaft bearing is not considered routine maintenance, it is a very important component to the proper operation of the transfer case. The input shaft bearing (ISB) problem is a known problem on a lot of Honda manual transmission. The way to check the input shaft bearing is, with the engine running and the car in neutral and stationary, depress and release the clutch pedal. An oil leak from the transfer case will put the unit at risk of running low and suffering damage due to lack of lubrication. Secondly when the clutch is engaged (pedal out) slight noise at idle in neutral. It's a $40 part. This is the shaft in the front of the transmission; the clutch is attached to it by the splines on the shaft. To isolate the pilot bushing or bearing from the release bearing, keep the clutch pedal on the floor and shift the transmission into neutral. blk94r33 8 Posted May 25, 2011. blk94r33 8 Rank: RB25DET; Members ; 8 984 posts; Gender: Male; Location: South West Vic; Car(s): R33 GTS+T; Real Name: Josh; Share; A Posted May 25, 2011. I have a bad noise coming from the primary on my 07 FLHP. It’s a 2006 mustang 4.0l Does anyone know if this is a common issue on those model mustang? Took the car in for warranty, discovered that this issue is the input shaft bearing being bad. It has 81k miles on it and started making a terrible noise when in neutral and clutch released. Listen for the Noise. therefore no bearing noise unless moving obviously. There has been a very loud and noticeable grinding noise coming from the transmission (when in gear or in neutral with the clutch let out) ever since I got the car, and it goes away whenever I press in the clutch, which rules out the TOB I think. Gear rollover noise will Lubricant level low, or improper type. input shaft bearing 91002-PS1-003 is for the bearing. If the transmission makes a rattling noise that is loudest in neutral, although it is always there, and the noise changes when it is put into gear, but shifts well, the input shaft bearing is bad. Yikes. noise with clutch out is input shaft bearings. As far as I know, to replace the input shaft bearing its a matter of opening the gearbox yes? My 2002 Civic EX had this problem at around 100K miles. Rebuild transmission required. The noise is really bad when I'm coasting with clutch pulled in. A faulty output shaft bearing. Like the noises when in neutral, these sounds only get louder as the engine puts out more RPM. A manual transmission makes a grinding sound at the front of the transmission with the engine running and the clutch fully engaged. Only once had an input shaft bearing failure and it sounded nothing like what you described. In view that the noise goes away when the grab is pressed in, that would get rid of the throw out and pilot bearing so the trans enter bearing would be it. the input shaft bearing noise that I experienced was not accompanied by any other shifting issues. If the output shaft bearing becomes damaged, it can cause gear oil to leak from the transmission. When the clutch is disengaged, the transmission's input shaft and the engine's crankshaft are rotating at different speeds. Hi the noise you have is the Input Bearing - Input shaft goes round with engine revs when your sat on your drive in Nuetral. Members; 151 1822 posts; KY; Posted July 8, 2010. You definitely have a bad input shaft bearing, a very common problem on Civics. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 5 of 5 Posts. Here’s another way to look at it: The greatest potential for pilot bearing noise is when the crankshaft and transmission input shaft rotate at different speeds; that’s when the bearing is really “working.” Furthermore, a bad pilot bearing often squeals loudly just as the clutch is beginning to engage—while you’re releasing the clutch pedal and beginning to accelerate. Another sign of a failing input shaft bearing is hearing even more noise when you put the car into drive. A shop that has done this before might do the job for about $650. All the info i could find on the net said that when the noise occurs when in neutral, and when the clutch pedal is used, the noise goes away, it's most likely the transmission input shaft bearing. Sounds like a bearing starting to fail. My money is on the TO bearing. I have been searching for a month for info on the input shaft bearing in the manual transmission patriots. Noise under these conditions indicates a worn pilot bushing or bearing, or a worn release bearing. Gear rollover noise, inherent in manual transmissions, is caused by the constant mesh gears turning at engine idle speed, while the clutch is engaged and the transmission is in neutral; and release bearing rub is sometimes mistaken for mainshaft bearing noise. I do know for sure that it is coming from the front of the transmission and not the rear. Which of the following is causing this noise? It has 81k miles on it and started making a terrible noise when in neutral and clutch released. Currently, dealership doesn't have a part number to reorder the part and is waiting on the Ford help line for assistance. john in KY 151 john in KY 151 1000+ Super USER! This is why a faulty pilot bearing makes its most noise when the clutch pedal is completely depressed and the clutch itself is completely disengaged. :aargh: Regards John Tee Mini Gearboxes Limited Coventry UK. Thanks. It runs and drives good, but still has that annoying whirring noise in the transmission anytime it is engaged and the clutch is released. Although this component may also be included on front wheel drive vehicles, it's typically a RWD component that works as the clutch is disengaged. Check out the Transmission Input Shaft thread regarding transmission noise that goes away when clutch down. Share this post. but many will try and sell you the moon or a used transmission that will have a bad bearing also. Press the Clutch and the noise stops ? I suspect that the culprit is the input shaft bearing in the 280 transmission. noise with clutch in is throw out bearing. I believe it to be the input shaft bearing on my manual trans but I don’t have the money right now to replace or repair it. If so anyone know if switching from BMW Spec oil to say Red Line MTL helps quiet it down? D. A faulty pilot bearing. For vehicles that are 4WD or rear wheel driven, a pilot bearing is used in conjunction with the vehicle's transmission to support and keep the transmission input shaft straight as the clutch applies pressure. B. If the noise is there with the pedal released and goes away when the pedal is depressed then it is the input shaft bearing which is faulty. I’ve been having some noise from my transmission for a while. Car in gear: no noticable noise except at strictly 2000-2500rpm where a rattling noise occurs. I'm 100% this is the input shaft bearing of the transmission my solution is just go get a transmission in used car scrap yard for 150$ and install it. How likely is it that this noise is just coming from the input shaft bearing? 91216-PH8-005 is for the oil seal behind it Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 20 of 30 Posts. I have a 2011 sport 5 speed. Although not sure if this is the Diff or Gearbox. I'm not sure exacly what tools are needed to remove and replace the bearing on your transmission, however, I'm sure it is a press fit on the input shaft. The noise stops when the bike stops. You will have to remove the transmission and then remove the front cover/throw-out bearing support. I know this is possible on some older inline gearboxes. Transmission Rattle/Input Shaft Bearing. Does anyone have experience with the above noises, and with replacing an input shaft bearing on a 280? Link to post Share on other sites . It's located in the center of the crankshaft flange or flywheel. A worn or damaged input shaft bearing, if your transmission makes noises only in neutral (sometimes a bumping sound) Worn-out gears; Reverse idler gear; countershaft; Output shaft pilot bearing problems ; Metal shavings in the oil; Sources outside the transmission that can cause noise: Some noises that seem to come from the transmission are actually coming from an outside though … if you think about it, with the clutch in the manual input shaft isnt spinning, it has no input. BCMac 82 633csi Chestnut Brown Metallic 83 635 euro Burgundy 84 M635 … Just recently it’s been getting worse. Save Share. You can identify the problem as the input shaft because the noise will continue while the car is stopped, whereas the noise would stop along with the vehicle if it were an output shaft issue. I would like to know if this is a thrust bearing or input shaft bearing problem? rough guide of course. Thats because the shaft is not rotating as you have disconected the engine from the input shaft by pressing the Clutch. Transmission input shaft bearing. The noise went away when clutch was pushed in. The trans input bearing is at the front of the case on the reverse finish of that first bearing that i acknowledged. The only part of the gearbox which is rotating at this time is the input shaft. I just did it on my protegé 1999 all by hand alone with the jack that come with the car and I still have a certain vibration cause by the clutch I asume it cause the damage to the previous transmission. Has anyone else ever had a noisy Input shaft bearing in the transmission? if it made noise with the clutch in, pressure is put on the throwout which in turn should sound. More than likely it is the front bearing on the input shaft. Input shaft bearing / main shaft bearing replacement on a 2001 to 2005 Honda CivicThis video includes the disassembly and cleaning of the components. I have a noisy input shaft bearing, (clutch pedal down quiet, pedal up noisy ) Once I have removed the gearbox and the input shaft cover tube, is there any way I could remove the shaft bearing without dismantling more of the gearbox? It seems to me that a worn throw-out bearing *could* be the source of the bearing noise, but that wouldn't explain the rattle. I have a 2011 sport 5 speed. Also,other than the bearing noise,the clutch functions as it should. The clutch is released, but the transmission is in gear, which causes the engine crankshaft to spin around the held transmission input shaft. The bearing itself is about $30 but you have to remove the transmission and disassemble it to replace it. The throw out bearing is on the shaft between the 2 of these. Share this post. I've never rebuilt a manual transmission so don't have any personal insight into how they work. C. A faulty clutch release bearing. 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